EW Staff
July 19, 2012 AT 09:18 PM EDT

In the latest edition of Movie Talk With Owen and Lisa, Entertainment Weekly movie critics Lisa Schwarzbaum and Owen Gleiberman discuss a little film you may have heard about called The Dark Knight Rises.

Schwarzbaum was disappointed by Christopher Nolan’s trilogy-ender. “It’s so big and so broad and held on the shoulders of a villain who, bottom line, is boring,” she says. But Gleiberman enjoyed it. “I think the movie earned it’s bigness,” he explains. “Even though it doesn’t have the total surprise that The Dark Knight had, it’s full of surprises. I think the the feeling it gives you is of being not just a movie, but an experience. That’s its impact.”

Watch the rest of the chat below!


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