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Natalie Abrams
November 04, 2016 AT 12:00 PM EDT

Every other week, executive producer Betsy Beers goes behind the scenes of Grey’s Anatomy and How to Get Away with Murder in her podcast, Shondaland Revealed — and EW will have an exclusive first listen of the latest episode.

This week, Beers catches up with Grey’s Anatomy star Kelly McCreary to dish on new addition Dr. Eliza Minnick (Marika Domińczyk), who caused Maggie to experience some very humbling moments during Thursday’s episode. Plus: McCreary also touches on whether Maggie and DeLuca will ever get back together and how Maggie has grown over the years.

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Grey’s Anatomy airs Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET on ABC.

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